View Poll Results: Do you think that Brawl in the Family deserves a Wikipedia article?

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    Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    An article by that name exists, but it is for an episode of the Simpsons. However, we should create an article about this webcomic. The name of the article will have to be "Brawl in the Family (webcomic)" without the quotes, but with webcomic in brackets. However, it has to survive the deletion process, since the significance of the topic is important for it to be kept. I learned that Wikipedia has articles about webcomics that are less notable than Brawl in the Family.

    Refer here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keenspot
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2P_START!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CREATE

    Here is the name of the new article:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brawl_in_the_Family_(webcomic)
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    There already was one, a while ago. It was deleted because BitF wasn't notable enough then or now, to be honest.

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Darky View Post
    There already was one, a while ago. It was deleted because BitF wasn't notable enough then or now, to be honest.
    That was a year and a half ago. It should be more notable now.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    personally i think if Bitf deserve an article on a wiki it should be on the Smash wiki or the Kirby Wiki. as that's what the comic is (mainly) about. i think this because as far as i know Pokemon X and Super Effective, two popular Pokemon comics don't have an article on Wikipedia. but they do on Bulbapedia.

    whatever it's just my thoughts
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Quote Originally Posted by The Kirbinator View Post
    That was a year and a half ago. It should be more notable now.
    It needs to win some awards, be featured/mentioned on prolific sites a few times, and just generally be better known, first. It's a small fish in a huge ocean of gaming webcomics. It's gained in popularity over the years, but that doesn't automatically make it ready for a Wiki page.

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    It has its own page and subpages on TV Tropes, but anyone can write anything on it (it has practically no notability requirements). Wikipedia is much more stringent, which means that Brawl in the Family needs to be featured on more notable and reputable websites. If we find enough, then it will survive the deletion process.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Does BitF really need a Wikipedia entry? TVTropes is one thing, but Wikipedia? Most gamers who might be interested in this comic won't be on Wikipedia to look for webcomics, but TVTropes is another story.

    So, what good reasons are there to have a Wikipedia article for BitF?

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    If articles such as No Room for Magic has no mention of notability, then I do not see why Brawl in the Family cannot have an article. Brawl in the Family is more popular than No Room for Magic even and has regular updates.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Upon looking at the Keenspot article, there are articles listed for several equally small or lesser webcomics. And in the TV tropes case, its article there is pretty big, meaning it's gotten a lot of edits and thus has a relatively large fanbase.

    Also, Kirbinator, a lot of those links are broken.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Quote Originally Posted by spedd View Post
    Also, Kirbinator, a lot of those links are broken.
    I fixed the links.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Quote Originally Posted by The Kirbinator View Post
    I fixed the links.
    2P Start's article is still broken. Now that I think about it, though, was it even all that big? I remember when I checked to see if there was a TV tropes article for it. I couldn't find one, and if it isn't just me, that says a lot.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Quote Originally Posted by spedd View Post
    2P Start's article is still broken. Now that I think about it, though, was it even all that big? I remember when I checked to see if there was a TV tropes article for it. I couldn't find one, and if it isn't just me, that says a lot.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    It's already been deleted

    They said there was "no evidence of notability."

    Didn't BitF have more than a million views/visits?

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Perhaps you should take a look at the date, it says January 2010.

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Wikipedia definition of notability: Being covered by several reliable sources (such as IGN and various award people). If any other webcomics have pages and have no sources, they probably shouldn't and will end up being deleted at some point. Other stuff exists, remember, and justifying one thing on another can lead to a strange loop of "this is notable because that is notable" and "that is notable because this is notable. TV Tropes, on the other hand, has no notability for works, because why would they have notability? They're about tropes, any work can use those.

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    BiTF is one of the webcomics featured on Kotaku, I think this should give some notability to it. So yeah, I think we should try to create an article again.

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Before you start working on it, you need an idea of what to put on the article first. Get a main structure in place beforehand(i.e. "what BitF is", "how it started", "legacy", etc.) and work from there.

    I assume some of you already had this in mind? If not, then you very well should, otherwise the article wouldn't exactly lend a good name to the site(or the fans), and would be undoubtedly poorly structured. You want to make it informative and unbiased as possible.

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Let me reiterate what Eltrotraw said right here on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CREATE

    As a start, we should use the Kotaku article on Brawl in the Family to provide some notability.

    Br sure to write the article as informative and neutral as possible for it to survive the deletion process. After "Brawl in the Family (webcomic)" survives the deletion process, go to the article about the Simpsons episode (Brawl in the Family) and add {{for|the webcomic|Brawl in the Family (webcomic)}} at the very top of that article.

    Be sure to use proper spelling and grammar when writing the article. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:COPYEDIT for hints.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Keep in mind that at least some information (not all because of the subject) must also be verified with citations from reliable sources.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:V

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Remember folks, Wikipedia strives for verifiability, not truth. Wikipedia is evidence-based and does not want original research (also known as hearsay).
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    I don't know if any of these will come in handy.

    I'll see if I can find any specific sites.

    EDIT: There are a bunch of Joystiq ones. Joystiq's a situational source, though, so we need to check the reliability of the individuals who post it. Here's hoping.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Notability! Verifiability! See, this is why I prefer Tv Tropes. They aren't a bunch of snobs! Wikipedia is good for one thing, and one thing only: Research for school projects. Everything that has to do with entertainment is strictly tv tropes.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    BitF has a Wikipedia article? Guess we aren't hipsters anymore...

    I think this is a good thing, you know, get our name out, get some more readers and whatnot. It certainly isn't any kind of bad attention and with Matthew being consistent on updates and delievering a funny and creative product within those guidlines, I think this site is ready to handle more attention. Not sure what kind of effect this may or may not have on the forum, but I personally enjoy seeing new faces. In the matter of having more mods to handle this, I believe have some prime candidates to rise to the position, like Eruedraith, Gold, and Eltrodraw, if, of course, they have the time/desire to handle such responsiblities. Anyways, that's all I have to say on the matter, I doubt anything major will arise from this.
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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    @littlemac: In respect to Wikipedia, they are supposed to be an encyclopedia.

    Also, it's hard to write an non-plot article about something with no sources.

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    Re: Wikipedia article for Brawl in the Family

    Quote Originally Posted by ARC Trooper CX-7529 View Post
    In the matter of having more mods to handle this, I believe have some prime candidates to rise to the position, like Eruedraith, Gold, and Eltrodraw, if, of course, they have the time/desire to handle such responsiblities.
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